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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:06 am 
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Yes, but based on that schematic, you also have a 1amp 200v diode in series with the circuit after the fuse.
I'll have a play and see if that's just a simple thing that i've overlooked.
Thanks for the Schematic!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:17 pm 
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Here's a couple of variations on the Alternator Charge LED theme.

The circuit on the left is the most reliable, with least chance of the LED ever blowing due to overvoltage or reverse voltages. The bridge rectifier can be any cheap 200v 2A one you find lying around, or cheapest you can buy. You may need to adjust the resistor values slightly, as I just reduced their values slightly to allow for voltage drop across the bridge (diodes). With this circuit it doesn't matter which connection goes to IGN+ or Alternator, since it's using a bridge rectifier.

The circuit on the right should be reliable in most cases and may well outlast your alternator, even though it's the cheaper nastier version. Note that it definitely matters which connection goes to IGN+ and alternator. Adjust the 560R series resistor to suit the LED or change brightness. A super-bright 10mm LED may need a lower value resistor, for example.

In the relevant circuits, R1 and R3 control the LED brightness, or should be adjusted to suit the required LED current (usually about 20mA). R2 and R4 need to be 5watt and simulates the current limit (or drain) of a standard dash light bulb so the alternator works correctly.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:45 pm 
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The issue has been resolved. Thanks very much guy's.
I had a complete Noob moment.
I had originally wired the sense light up the same as the diagrams displayed. But I had wired it back to front originally and it wasn't working. I then changed the wiring around so that it was on, but wouldn't turn off. Without going into a long story, I did not have the resistor parallel to the bulb. I added a 120R resistor (because I had that and a 47R one) and it turned the light off straight away. Checked the voltage across the terminals with the engine running. 0.00v.

Really should have just done that in the past, pays to double check yourself sometimes. So now after years of putting up with a slightly dim charge light. The light is off!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:12 am 
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Hi Ross,

I use this site for me LED / resistor calculations

http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:03 pm 
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Ooh that's a handy site!
I don't know what was happening for me when I wired it up originally. I must have had a bad day then never bothered to re-check my wires to see if I had stuffed something up. It makes complete sense to have run the resistor in parallel which is what i thought I did, but then I remembered that I actually removed the resistor when I realised I wired the light in back to front one time. I never thought that I had.
I used to build guitar effects and things like that. The circuity is basic and the volts of the LED are lower than incandescent bulb, so none of it was making much sense. Anyway, it makes complete sense to me now, and its now fixed!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:58 pm 
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Hey Ross,

It's a great site, takes a lot of the guesswork out of it :)

Good luck with it.

Cheers,

Trent

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