Ok guys the choice has been made
after trying to track down an fj20et from a wrecker/importer i have decided to go after the vg30.
The vg only eighs 16kg more than the fj and i think it will make it up in the torque
I need your help though, i have found lots of websites and people that have/will do it but they happen to be in america etc.
So i want you to build me the motor and fit it into my 510
. I plan on using the gazelle front end, steering rack etc.
I need to know if anyone ahs done this in australia and how they did it etc, i can see how it will goes together but i need encouragement.

Hopefully this will work
Thanks
Paul

Paul,

I seem to remember there being a cream 1600 around someplace (Adelaide?) with a VG30DET in it, actually, I now remember two, one maddat did. Give craig a call perhaps?

My advice would be to just get the engine and the components that the US sites recommend for fitting and have a play. That way you can ask specific questions. Maybe you could organise to buy a fitting kit from america if doing it yourself doesn't sound like much fun.

Would be an interesting to see such an install. I don't really see the benefit of the bigger engine myself.

Dave

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as long as you're confident that the gazelle xmember and steering will line up and work correctly - i really do advise against rack and pinion conversions if you have to make your own xmember for the rack - like i did

i'd be interested in seeing this - purely because it's not my own money

nah seriously, it should work - my only issue would be where the turbo is located.

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Baz,

Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks. Why not a SBC then?

Dave

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because SBCs suck...

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They're on a similar page as the VG in my book. Too heavy for the car, unnecessary in terms of power requirements, a hassle.

Dave

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AUS Race Car: 1973 240Z, L28ET, Autronic, GT35R. SOLD
AUS Project: 1972 1600, 3200km old S15 SR20DET, ground up rebuild. SOLD

baz am i right in the weight of the vg compared to the fj20. apparently you are developing a fitting kit may i ask what you are using and the cost or is it something like what i plan on using, i have found the gazelle crossmember will fit but it needs to be moved back around 45mm to compensate for the location of the standard lower control arms compared to the gazelle.
Have just talked to my engineer aswell and he says he sees no problem with the conversion, i am in the ACT. So it all sounds good

Paul

Sounds like a fun conversion. I would be keen to see a VG wedged in a 1600, if you are looking for some ACT ozdatters to lend a hand at any stage I would be happy.

famous last words

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yay! 2000 posts!

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and i think that you should persue your dream of a VG30DET into a 1600!!!

i saw one in a 120Y over here in perth a couple times, did 11's and ran high 12's and low 13's when he lost second gear.

but he had to reshell after he shattered the flywheel and ripped the firewall apart......

so i think it's in a coupe now, is he part of this site?

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Paul, this is not a job for the faint hearted.
will post a few pics in a week or so.
Engine position is critical for balance & sump/ bonnet clearance.
We did not want to change the std turbo position or modify the manifolds.
for a few reasons inc legal considerations.
We will be using power rack. possibly from the gazelle.
Have checked out many Xmembers to mod.
The conversion Xmember from our kit fits, but the arm pivot positions do suit the rack.
we will use the pivot points on our kits as a reference.
With to particular attention to the caster angle as this dictates the position of the xmember. ( towers aside)
will possibly use modified 200B/C210 control arms/ ball joints so we can use the 296mm brakes we do on the R31 strut.
still up in the air on this.
We have cut the firewall for cross over pipe clearance & the chassis rail has been sectioned for turbo clearance.
Rail area will be superstructured. No probs here, as two engineers and a boiler maker have said that it will end up stronger than original.
Engine mount for the RH is no prob but the LH will be a challenge.
Cannot give a price on the kit at the moment.
We do not expect to make many of these
Cannot confirm the weight of the DET but the balance looks good.
2/3 of the motor is behind the axle.
Heaps of room at front, much more than SR or L series.

Dont use a vg from the Z.
The Cima vg is the one to use. They are internally different & have better heads.

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I will also encourage you to go with the VG

people told me it wouldnt fit ( into a 910 ) and would be a waste of time. i built it to be different and not to be the fastest down the strip or round the track
The VG's are a tough engine and very underestimated

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