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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:50 am 
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OUTATIME, I have tried to send you PMs' but for some reason they are stuck in my OUTBOX and will not move from there.
Send me you shipping address and I'll send off the brackets.
Still can't find the missing piece, you'll have to make that bit :oops:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:26 am 
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I know its probably a silly question but do the calipers have to be mounted on the top??

I prefer the in front or behind look personally.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:58 am 
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It is important in my opinion to have a straight pull on the handbrake mechanism.
If you want to rotate the caliper for aesthetic reasons just make sure you don't make the handbrake inoperative due to bends in the cable etc.
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This is on the rear of a 510.
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The flexible line mates up with a slightly re-positioned standard hard line on the suspension arm. The very end of the hard line that used to go the the wheel cylinder was curved slightly to mate up with the flexible line and a "Z" bracket was made up to anchor the two lines.
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I personally like to see that bleed nipple at the highest point of the caliper.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:18 pm 
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yup I see, competely understandable. I think ill just stick with the way you have done it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:04 am 
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how much are the caliper brackets you have available nissanman?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:40 am 
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I used the OEM R31 brackets.
The centre hole needs to be enlarged to fit over the rear hub, I used a round grinding wheel slightly smaller than the stock hole diameter, in a drill press and just kept grinding till I reached the circle I had scribed.
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The mounting holes are nearly right, I think I had to re-drill at least one.
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The leading edge needed to be profiled to fit around the seam weld on the control arm.
I also took the opportunity to remove the stub axle and renew the rear wheel bearings so I was able to use all 4 holes to mount the bracket :wink:
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Note that I used two handbrake cable mounts end to end to arrange the straight pull on the mechanism.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:57 pm 
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hmm so you only really need to re-drill one hole?? the grinding and etc shouldnt be a problem for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:04 pm 
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Did some work today on the R31 rears.

heres the result.

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mounted. I realise that i have the wrong caliper on there.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:23 pm 
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Guys, with the USD expected to get smashed soon. (aud $1.10-1.20) I been looking at some wilwood calipers for the rear.

Either using the hand brake style caliper (for hot rods etc, tiny pad but used as a hand brake) and either their twin pot calipers, or some nissan skyline twin pot rears, Has anyone else looked into this?

Im not a fan of the rear r31 sliding caliper on a track car that is all.

wilwood hand brake calipers are about $70usd each, and twin ports are 300 or so landed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:29 pm 
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one thing to be carefull of i have found is, with the bracket, make sure you shave enough off otherwise the caliper will foul on the disc, looks like im going to be pulling it apart, again.

I looked at the Willwoods ages ago, main problem is for me is that they arent legal.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:27 pm 
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How do you mount the wilwood handbrake section?

Anything that requires welding a bracket on is a pain in the ass to make sure it stays flush with the rotor.

Internal drum handbrake is the answer, I'm working on a kit.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Why are the calipers not legal?

I be super keen on a drum hand brake rear set up myself..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:27 pm 
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The willwoods dont have a rubber seal around the piston and are therefore not legal for road use in Australia.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Didn't know that, Kinda pointless caliper then for the track.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:56 pm 
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they are basically designed for the track and trak only. On the road cars have to deal with a large multitude of different conditions. The reason behind having to have a rubber seal on the road is that apparently there is a chance of dirt building up, scoring the cylinder and thus losing braking capacity.

Ill see if i can find the post on ausrotary about it.

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