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Cowboy1600
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:53 pm 
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Just to clear one thing up, Radius Rods = Castor Rods, yes?
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Dave, the radius rods we are doing are for the std 1600,180B front end.
Reversed Xmembers etc.
Not for our current EHK.
Different than T3 gear, better set up.
I need the feed back as to what level people are prepared to go to modify their cars.
myself for the std front end I am leaning towards the V2
as some classes may not allow replacing/repositioning of the brackets.

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Cowboy1600 wrote:
Just to clear one thing up, Radius Rods = Castor Rods, yes?
yes, radius rods, caster rods , TCRs all same.

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Baz wrote:
Dave, the radius rods we are doing are for the std 1600,180B front end.
Reversed Xmembers etc.
Not for our current EHK.
In that case, I'll revise my opinion and say V2 as its probably not as important to fix the radius rod geometry as it would be with the EHK.

I'd say a lot of people wouldn't mind drilling a few holes for V2, but might baulk at completely removing the existing bracket for V3.

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Dave wrote:
Baz wrote:
Dave, the radius rods we are doing are for the std 1600,180B front end.
Reversed Xmembers etc.
Not for our current EHK.
In that case, I'll revise my opinion and say V2 as its probably not as important to fix the radius rod geometry as it would be with the EHK.

I'd say a lot of people wouldn't mind drilling a few holes for V2, but might baulk at completely removing the existing bracket for V3.
^^^^ +1

Would be great if that was the case for the EHK as an option and yes the brackets on the 180B are just bolted onto the bottom of the rad support and chassy rails so I don't think it would be that much drama havign them modified to suit.

IMO V2 if I wasn't purchasing the EHK but like dave said I would be willing to modify the mounting points for the EHK.

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Just to clarify the style of joint we will use.
apparently the correct term is axial joint.
these will be custom made to suit the application.


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SIX-TEN wrote:
Dave wrote:
Baz wrote:
Dave, the radius rods we are doing are for the std 1600,180B front end.
Reversed Xmembers etc.
Not for our current EHK.
In that case, I'll revise my opinion and say V2 as its probably not as important to fix the radius rod geometry as it would be with the EHK.

I'd say a lot of people wouldn't mind drilling a few holes for V2, but might baulk at completely removing the existing bracket for V3.
^^^^ +1

Would be great if that was the case for the EHK as an option and yes the brackets on the 180B are just bolted onto the bottom of the rad support and chassy rails so I don't think it would be that much drama havign them modified to suit.

IMO V2 if I wasn't purchasing the EHK but like dave said I would be willing to modify the mounting points for the EHK.
we are doing a protype for the EHK now which will be an option.
subject for a seperate discussion please.

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I guess they will look a lot like these ->

as far as I remember they were a mix of 300zx and some other custom bits, don't remember where I came across this image tho???


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James B wrote:
I know you already have your plans for the steering Baz, but I'd really like to see some replica nismo 2.5 turn L to L steering box internals flood the market. Not just for me of course :) , but the rally market should be sizable.

Other suggestions:

Short nose coversion (I am now officially a broken record)
Tubular A-arms to use with coilovers and allow wider tread (I'm sure Camo would love to work on this - I almost convinced him last time I saw him)
Custom adaptor flanges with BRE style cooling fins to adapt to a more generic & cheaper CV kit than what's currently on the market
Carbon (or hemp) fibre bonnet, boot and bumpers
Off-the-shelf tailshaft for generic CA/SR conversions
Alloy steering knuckles??
Alloy 4 or 5 stud hubs
Stronger stub axle

I could go on but I probably shouldn't.

+1 for the 2.5 L to R turn steering box. Rally people in Vic would jump at the chance. :thumbsup:

Sorry to jump out of order Baz. :)
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jrogersmotorsport wrote:
James B wrote:
I know you already have your plans for the steering Baz, but I'd really like to see some replica nismo 2.5 turn L to L steering box internals flood the market. Not just for me of course :) , but the rally market should be sizable.

Other suggestions:

Short nose coversion (I am now officially a broken record)
Tubular A-arms to use with coilovers and allow wider tread (I'm sure Camo would love to work on this - I almost convinced him last time I saw him)
Custom adaptor flanges with BRE style cooling fins to adapt to a more generic & cheaper CV kit than what's currently on the market
Carbon (or hemp) fibre bonnet, boot and bumpers
Off-the-shelf tailshaft for generic CA/SR conversions
Alloy steering knuckles??
Alloy 4 or 5 stud hubs
Stronger stub axle

I could go on but I probably shouldn't.

+1 for the 2.5 L to R turn steering box. Rally people in Vic would jump at the chance. :thumbsup:

Sorry to jump out of order Baz. :)
unfortunatly reculating ball steering parts are very expensive.
Our steering component manufacturer does not do steering boxes.
however there may be a work around.

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SIX-TEN wrote:
I guess they will look a lot like these ->

as far as I remember they were a mix of 300zx and some other custom bits, don't remember where I came across this image tho???
Yes that would be the V1 option.
This type of setup works quite well
and has been done as one offs many times in the past.
Tho we will have custom engineered joints made for the pupose.

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image here shows the difference between V1 & V2 mounting position.
V2 would give better geometry than V1.
Especially when running heaps of caster.


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I think the V2 would be the one to make , you will still get people wanting the best for there car so they would get the V3 .
I have two 1600s , i would not cut off any metal at the front to fit the V3 , but like i said i have two cars so maybe a V2 on one car and the V3 on the other .
What else are you making .
Hope you are feeling better now .
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Castor Rods out the way (altho not really solved) so what's next?
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i reckon a rack and pinion steering setup would be pretty popular

If you are going to the hassle of manufacturing different ball joints for bump steer issues, then you could work out what problems and angles a R&P setup would give you and build them out at the same time

and with the R&P steering, find a rack that comes in power steering also and have the ability for people with their SR conversions to have power steer as an option, it would just be a matter of a few custom lines - maybe too far!

Or you could design a setup that ustilises S13/S14 front hubs, which in turn allows the use of a wide range of coilovers, brakes, etc - but that might take away alot of your current sales from front brake and suspension setups

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