I've got my HR on club reg but as it's stock standard I shouldn't have any problems. With the rego price rise for next year I was going to put the y on as well might pay to keep it on full reg now as I've been told if I went to club reg but then decided later on I wanted full reg again the car would need to be re-engineered?

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120Y 4DOOR SEDAN SR20DE WITH ITB'S

http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/vie ... post494892

Cops can defect a car on a permit as easily as any other registered vehicle.

Unfortunately too many clubs have been pushing the boundaries so this was going to be the inevitable response.
If you have built your car right and you find an engineer the only problem will be a financial one.
Given most engineers charge <$1000 it will be cheap peace of mind to ensure your car is legal and you are not liable because you are driving a vehicle with illegal modifications.

As Australia follows the litigation happy nature of the USA it is all the more important to be sure you have ticked all the right boxes when you build and register/permit your car.

After a long discussion with the head of the Vicroads defect management group (who manage the club permit scheme) after Vicroads sent one of our members two sets of plates/logbooks for the same car, he made it clear that any car used on the roads regardless of full reg or permit needs to be engineered if the modifications exceed the NCOP standards.

As for structural testing of chassis' that will only be required if the chassis has been significantly modified.

Mass rw testing is highly unlikely but some clubs may be required to present all CPS cars for inspection if they are deemed to be doing the wrong thing.

I don't like it any more than the rest of you but I really can't see a way that it can be avoided.

Build your car so it will satisfy the VASS criteria and you won't have a problem.

And as Lurch said, pick the right engineer

It's the same sh*t different smell. Engineer your car make it legal bla bla but if you can find the right engineer then you can get things passed anyway! It's been all over the place for years. Engineers all have different rules and beliefs on what they are allowed to pass.

Fear jargon annoys me. Join a club, ask them what they require. If your car is 'engineered' then it should be safe as houses either way. You can roll in to vic roads any old day with a rwc and get your overpriced rego back.

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LAGWAGON gracefully retired... LAG 510 - the next generation

Lurch,
please refer to my pic a couple pages ago.
Ive also had a defect notice put on a car that had a unregistered vehicle permit.

My junk still has the original motors still fitted, no worries here.

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Dan.
Official organisor of Thursday nite pizza.

or 4 different clubs so 4 different plates = 4 seasons club reg

I got in my permit plated Datsun today & took it for a blast up the hills, without a care in the world.
I'm over this scare mongering sh*t...
Well... I'll eat my hat!

I have a mate who's a sergeant in the force (& an ex-TOG no less) & he's adamant that you can't defect a permitted vehicle

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http://www.ozdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=31659

http://www.lescollinsracing.com/

But you can fine it for being an unregistered and unroadworthy one. Still needs a rwc to get back on permit. Techinically its not registered but ifbin hreach of club permit rules they can treat it as an unregistered vehicle even if log book filled out.
Thats what a tog told me when I was pulled over. All good on my car

Wouldn't it be nice if the exact rules and laws were written down somewhere on the internet, easy for us regular humans to find and understand, and we could therefore know what was and wasn't legal. Then if we do get challenged by one of the many police officers who don't quite understand but have the power to defect, we could quickly jump on the internet from our phones and show them. Or they could check using the computers in their vehicles. Unfortunately to do such a thing would be counter-productive for revenue raising, so I can't see it happening.

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green200b - aka Alistair

The fleet:

Australia:
'80 200B GX - the green200b - hibernating
'81 RX-7 - 12A extend port - daily
'74 RX-2 - 13B bridgeport - cruiser

Europe:
'93 200SX - CA18DET - tourer

I don't know what you are all carrying on about scare mongering and fear jargon crap for.

Clubs/members doing the wrong thing is what is going to **** it up for all of us.
Vicroads finally does something good for car enthusiasts and I for one hope it lasts.

The best thing they can do is lock in the requirements for modified cars on the CPS. Write it up so there is no if's or maybes. Rewording the Vicroads website would be a good start.
When (because it is only a matter of time) they make it a requirement for modified cars on CPS to be VASS signed off either engineer your car or let the cps lapse.

If you want to retain your CPS find a VASS signatory who will sign off your mods, if you need to shop around to find the right one so be it.

Or it could end up worse case scenario where Vicroads just locks it down to no mods to CPS cars at all.
Then you **** will really have something to complain about.

The rules are on the internet
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonl ... hicles.pdf

Problem is everyone interprets them in different ways, including as Leigh pointed out, the VASS signatories.
And most cops are directed to defect if they think there is any reason rather than know the laws as they actually apply.

You banana dave,
vicroads wont be impressed with you trying to register the same Vin No four times

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Dan.
Official organisor of Thursday nite pizza.

Just adding to the fun,
I think it comes down to the police officer and what kind of a day he/she has had in regards to defecting vehicles.

The other month I managed to score a defect on a dirtbike (with recreational rego)
How good is that?
Not only was it a defect, the "rwc required" box was ticked.
Dont need a rwc for rec rego...

Goes to show how much of a lack of knowledge most authorities have when it comes down to the crunch.

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Dan.
Official organisor of Thursday nite pizza.

Thats four different cars like most datsun owners

So what happens with the dirt bike to resolve that issue?

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1973 H230 Wagon, 'ILL-260'
1975 911S Targa
1978 Torana Hatch
1999 GXE10

Had to report to vicroads with bike showing that lights are working.
Vicroads bloke couldnt stop telling me how useless VicPol are.

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Dan.
Official organisor of Thursday nite pizza.

Yep.

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1973 H230 Wagon, 'ILL-260'
1975 911S Targa
1978 Torana Hatch
1999 GXE10