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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:33 pm 
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My 1600 is with the auto sparky at the moment being re wired, and high beam isn't flashing using the indicator stalk.

He is adamant it's the combination switch causing the fault. I've removed the steer column surround to check operation, it's definitely making contact and functioning correctly when pulling stalk back and forth. You think he would be able to figure this out, but he's sure it's the combo switch. I don't see how it could be the switch if it's such a simple on/off contact.

Any suggestions? :cheers

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:24 am 
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I don't think they are designed to "flash".

Headlight switch fully "in" - no lights at all

Head light switch one stop out - low beam or parkers depending on whether the stalk is forward or back.

Two stops out - low beam or high beam, depending on stalk position.

Its been a while since I've driven my 1600 in the dark though....

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:34 am 
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What type of combo switch are you using?
Can you post a pic.
We do this type of work. The head lamp wiring system we use has only
2 earth wires to turn the headlamps on, dip, and flash.
Just some innovative thinking.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:46 pm 
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Just so we're all on the same page, im talking about the indicator lever, the item between steer column and steer wheel. Not the switch on right side of dash.
Baz, im assuming its just the standard item?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:48 pm 
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http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 42&alt=web

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:37 pm 
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DATO4 wrote:
Just so we're all on the same page, im talking about the indicator lever, the item between steer column and steer wheel. Not the switch on right side of dash.
Baz, im assuming its just the standard item?

Yep, that's the one I'm talking about.

1600's, I'm pretty sure, don't have the ability to just pull / push on the indicator stalk like a modern car and be able to flash high beam (or any lights). You have to pull the knob out before pushing / pulling the indicator stalk will have any effect.

I vaguely recall that some Jap versions of the 1600 had a little button in the end of the indicator stalk that did the "flash" thing, but not aussie 1600's ???

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:33 pm 
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Dave is correct here.
The indicator/head lamp dimmer pictured does not have flash facility.
Just toggles high/low beam.

The flasher type has a button in the end as Dave posted.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DATSUN-1600- ... 258fa2a099

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:39 pm 
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Ah ok, maybe the dopey bastard didn't have the headlight switch pulled on...I'll check

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:56 pm 
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So your problem is that the lights will not change from Low to high?

I have seen over the years so many sparkys confused by the 1600s unique
wiring system.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:11 pm 
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this is what he claims, yes. The indicator stalk will not change the low/high beam. but he has yet to answer whether he had the headlight switch pulled out.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:34 pm 
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So the sparky reakons there is no connection through the switch. Apparently he had the headlight knob pulled out.

Are these combo switches easy to repair? Baz?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:00 am 
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The high beam switch is a simple earthing arrangement - switch earths a wire to trigger the standard high beam/low beam changeover relay. If your sparkie can't figure it out in under 5 seconds, you need a new sparkie.
The high beam switches are usually repairable, and quite easy too.
Tell him to leave that bit, get the car home, pull off the combo switch and have a close look at it yourself - you can easily see how it operates, and the whole combo assembly needs to be earthed (to the column) for the high beam switch to be effective.


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Hi DAT04
I had a similar problem a month or so ago and after many frustrating hours of playing and moving i found that the small locating hole on column if not clean and making good contact with the small locating pin on combo switch it would not work . Once i cleaned up the small hole (removed any excess paint) and made sure both points were making good contact, the whole system operated perfectly . Your problem is definitely an earth problem some where and above was mine solution
rgds wnw244


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xfacta wrote:
The high beam switch is a simple earthing arrangement - switch earths a wire to trigger the standard high beam/low beam changeover relay. If your sparkie can't figure it out in under 5 seconds, you need a new sparky.
The high beam switches are usually repairable, and quite easy too.
Tell him to leave that bit, get the car home, pull off the combo switch and have a close look at it yourself - you can easily see how it operates, and the whole combo assembly needs to be earthed (to the column) for the high beam switch to be effective.
Oh man don't even get me started. I tried finding a decent (semi Datsun educated) sparky in Sydney for months, without wanting some ridiculous 8K price tag.
The guy who is doing is not Datsun educated at all, but he's neat and very pedantic like me. So far he's going good. Just niggling little bugs like this coming up here and there. Which is fine, i'm happy to sort this out as the steering wheel has to come off again anyway.

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WNW-244 wrote:
Hi DAT04
I had a similar problem a month or so ago and after many frustrating hours of playing and moving I found that the small locating hole on column if not clean and making good contact with the small locating pin on combo switch it would not work . Once I cleaned up the small hole (removed any excess paint) and made sure both points were making good contact, the whole system operated perfectly . Your problem is definitely an earth problem some where and above was mine solution
rgds wnw244
Thanks very much mate. It probably is exactly that, as i reco'd my steer column including a new lick of paint. Will repair when i get car back.

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